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Postby ThunderTitan » Nov 29 2007, 13:40

Kalah wrote:I don't think people who say American players suck have their heads screwed on correctly. Allow me to mention a few examples: Tim Howard. Kasey Keller. Brad Friedel. Cobi Jones. Eric Wynalda. Landon Donovan. Michael Bradley. Jonathan Spector. DeMarcus Beasley. Freddy Adu. Brian McBride. Jovan Kirovski. Joe-Max Moore. Thomas Dooley. Tab Ramos. Claudio Reyna. Alexi Lalas. Roy Wegerle. Frankie Hejduk. Eddie Lewis. The list goes on.


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Postby darknessfood » Nov 29 2007, 17:52

@ TT, good point...

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Postby Kalah » Nov 29 2007, 20:22

Dude, many of these guys play in some of the best leagues in the world... Look them up and enlighten yourself, will ya... :disagree:
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Postby darknessfood » Nov 30 2007, 1:09

Well, i'm a soccer fan and i'm sure that any of the names should be familiar, but they just don't ring a bell to me. You can say that they are good, but it's still a common fact (sort of) that american soccer teams suck and they never make it far in a world tournament.

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Postby asandir » Nov 30 2007, 2:25

well I know Tim Howard, Kasey Keller, Brad Friedel, Brian McBride and Claudio Reyna, and most football fans I would have thought would have heard of them, having said that the US is hardly a great football nation :)
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Postby Kalah » Nov 30 2007, 2:41

darknessfood wrote:Well, i'm a soccer fan and i'm sure that any of the names should be familiar, but they just don't ring a bell to me. You can say that they are good, but it's still a common fact (sort of) that american soccer teams suck and they never make it far in a world tournament.


Although I agree that the American league has a long way to go before reaching European level, you can't say for certain that US teams are at a low level. You don't even know the players, let alone how skilled they are, and since American teams don't play European teams, there's no point of reference there either. As for the international team... well, I agree the U.S. aren't exactly Argentina, but as of November 2007, USA is ranked 19th in the world, ahead of countries like Nigeria, Russia, Cameroon and Norway.
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Postby asandir » Nov 30 2007, 2:53

it's an artificially inflated ranking K, they get thru to the world cup due purely to the number of places their conference has, and the competition is severely lacking, australia is ranked significantly lower than the US and yet we have performed better then them recently, look at nations like South Korea - ranked 42!!!! yet been in past 6 world cups and done pretty well

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Postby Kalah » Nov 30 2007, 18:12

The rankings are floating; they're based on the recent results - which is why Norway was ranked 2nd in the 90s. If you take a look at the results of 2007, you'll see that USA beat Denmark and Mexico early this year, quite strong teams. They went on to beat several other teams before hitting the slump in summer after being thrashed by Argentina. They'll be playing Sweden again in January; I'd like to see if they can beat the Swedes :)
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Postby asandir » Dec 1 2007, 3:06

they're floating like a tectonic plate on cash!
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Postby Paulus1 » Dec 1 2007, 12:29

Kalah wrote:you'll see that USA beat Denmark

That was our Ligalandshold, not the real national team. Only players from the danish league was on that team, so the best players were absent.
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Postby Kalah » Dec 1 2007, 13:00

I'm still impressed they beat Mexico twice...
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Postby asandir » Dec 1 2007, 23:38

probably on the days they ate a dodgy taco!
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Postby parcaleste » Mar 9 2008, 6:36

Yesterday a great home game of my team:

    1:0 - 3min
    1:1 - 14min
    1:2 - 22min
    2:2 - 45+1min - p.
    3:2 - 60min
    (red card for a player of ours) 3:3 - 70min
    4:3 - 82min

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Postby Kalah » Mar 9 2008, 16:40

Looks like Spurs will beat West Ham fairly hands-down. 2-0 with 10 minutes left to play, and the Hammers don't seem to have much to offer.

[EDIT: 3-0! :-D Gilberto makes up for his mistake in the previous match.]

[EDIT: 4-0 :oex: aaah, the sweet taste of victory...]
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Postby asandir » Mar 10 2008, 0:27

I notice you neglected to respond to my post ....
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Postby Kalah » Mar 10 2008, 0:29

You post so much I can't possibly reply to all of them :tongue:
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Postby asandir » Mar 10 2008, 0:35

hmmm, it was in the sports thread i thought, which i can't find right now .... somehting about how totts had the best offensive team, which I scoffed at and then produced some figures around which team actually has the best offensive team in the league .... my team!
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Postby PhoenixReborn » Mar 10 2008, 4:02

Kalah wrote:
[EDIT: 3-0! :-D Gilberto makes up for his mistake in the previous match.]


But not really...I'd rather he not score there and not make the mistake...

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Postby Kalah » Mar 10 2008, 16:36

Good point. But at least he's got some offensive qualities; that opens up for a Bale/Gilberto combo on the left side next season if we can't get hold of a first-rate winger.
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Postby Kalah » Mar 19 2008, 21:59

:applause: WHAT A MATCH!!! :-D

Tottenham - Chelsea 4-4, I would have killed to be present on the Lane for this. Coming back against our rivals, we might even have slain the lions at the end. :)
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