BattleLord - how some things should have been done in HoMM-V

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BattleLord - how some things should have been done in HoMM-V

Postby Dalai » May 5 2006, 9:07

We did not receive hexes on battlefield in HoMM-V. It was too complex to create good interface. Manga turned out to be some ugly disproportional style.

Check this project:
http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/battle_lord/165545

Only few screenshots are available so far. And a few comments from developers. It's not a Heroes clone, it's Adventure/RPG/Tactical. Heroes do not have castles, mines are locations, not just flaggable source of resource.

Game is planned for 2007.

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Postby Marzhin » May 5 2006, 9:40

Looks suspeciously like Heroes if you ask me...

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Postby DaemianLucifer » May 5 2006, 13:05

Marzhin wrote:Looks suspeciously like Heroes if you ask me...


Looks like HV shouldve looked.

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Postby Marzhin » May 5 2006, 13:16

DaemianLucifer wrote:
Marzhin wrote:Looks suspeciously like Heroes if you ask me...


Looks like HV shouldve looked.


Well that's your opinion... I like the way H5 looks. It's back to its cartoonish roots.

Dalai wrote:Manga turned out to be some ugly disproportional style.


And by the way, enough of that. There's nothing "manga" in H5. "Cartoonish", maybe, even "comics-like", but if you think H5 is manga-like you obviously never saw a manga...

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Postby Ethric » May 5 2006, 13:17

Yeah, my thought exactly. It deosn't look like H5; it looks good :-D

Sword of Light: increases attack of hero on 5

Sounds like they plan to have fighting heroes, though the sentence is odd. Anywho, looks like something worth keeping an eye on for sure.
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Postby Dalai » May 5 2006, 13:56

Marzhin wrote:And by the way, enough of that. There's nothing "manga" in H5. "Cartoonish", maybe, even "comics-like", but if you think H5 is manga-like you obviously never saw a manga...

I even saw a textbook of Manga. I agree - H-V doesn't look like Manga, but that's what Fabrice sais. ;| I don't know why he insists on it. ;|
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Postby Marzhin » May 5 2006, 14:23

Dalai wrote:
Marzhin wrote:And by the way, enough of that. There's nothing "manga" in H5. "Cartoonish", maybe, even "comics-like", but if you think H5 is manga-like you obviously never saw a manga...

I even saw a textbook of Manga. I agree - H-V doesn't look like Manga, but that's what Fabrice sais. ;| I don't know why he insists on it. ;|


I can't remember Fabrice saying that...

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Postby Dalai » May 5 2006, 15:14

Marzhin wrote:I can't remember Fabrice saying that...

It was shortly after first screenshots appeared, and people started talking about anime.
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Postby ThunderTitan » May 5 2006, 16:50

Too me it looks French, not anime/manga. And anime is basicaly animated manga, so whatever.

And while that game does look better (IMHO) the HoMMV it doesn't look that great. The hexes do make me nostalgic... they just look so much better than the squares.
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Postby DaemianLucifer » May 5 2006, 21:24

Marzhin wrote:Well that's your opinion... I like the way H5 looks. It's back to its cartoonish roots.


What?!You call that abomination cartonish as previous versions?Blasphemy!

Marzhin wrote:And by the way, enough of that. There's nothing "manga" in H5. "Cartoonish", maybe, even "comics-like", but if you think H5 is manga-like you obviously never saw a manga...


No,its not manga,its a mixture of styes.It has anime in it(angels and elves for example),toilet graphics(mostly inferno),and some other lousy styles.It looks nothing like HI-III.Hell,even the HIV graphics is better in most cases.Although towns and map do look nice,heroes and units are mostly very bad.

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Postby Campaigner » May 6 2006, 0:58

Hey! That looks cool! :-D I immediately thought about Heroes when I saw those hexes, the creatures lineup side by side, stacknumbers, the spellbook with pictures of the spells, cost and descriptions, the picture of the army, hero with the lvl meter and the blocky graphics :butterfly:
When I think about it, almost everything looks like Heroes!

The graphics on the adventuremap doesn't look superb though. But I think that's because they haven't added (FS)AA, AF and various other graphics enhancing technologies yet. (If memory serves, the open beta of Heroes V haven't incorporated AA and AF).

Thanks for the news though Dalai (Lama) :p

But the devcomments are in russian dammit! We need a translator!
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Postby Dalai » May 6 2006, 8:40

Campaigner wrote:Thanks for the news though Dalai (Lama) :p

But the devcomments are in russian dammit! We need a translator!

Welcome. But I have nothing to do with Lama :D

Where did you find devcomments? I found some in other place - the scarce info in top post is from there. And yes, I can ranslate from Russian. :proud:

Hey, I found some more info:
Developers (Katauri interactive, new name of the team that developed "Space Rangers 2") are working on at least two projects. One of them - Heroes-like game, and the other - BattleLord. The later will be presented on E3 and one more Russian game developers exibition. In one week there will be more information.
Source in Russian - here: http://www.ag.ru/news/05-05-2006#16133

So, no info on Heroes-like game, except it is being developed.
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Postby Campaigner » May 6 2006, 11:19

Ok...so the heroes-like game we just saw isn't the heroes-like game while the secret game is the heres-like game....ok....:|

There was some text directly below each picture and I thought that was the devcomments. Or maybe it's just desciptions?

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Postby Dalai » May 6 2006, 11:55

Campaigner wrote:Ok...so the heroes-like game we just saw isn't the heroes-like game while the secret game is the heres-like game....ok....:|

Frankly speaking, the news I was referring to, is not very clear even in Russian :(
I'll try to get comments from developers directly.

There was some text directly below each picture and I thought that was the devcomments. Or maybe it's just desciptions?

I translated this text in p.s. in the first post.
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Postby Ethric » May 6 2006, 14:36

Yeah that does sound odd, with 2 games... I mean, the pictures above weren't really to similar to Heroes to cause raising of eyebrows in a meaningful way, but if they have a project that is more similar than this, that would likely be "to similar".

Of course, a few pictures are far from the whole story of the game.
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Postby Marzhin » May 9 2006, 16:30

DaemianLucifer wrote:What?!You call that abomination cartonish as previous versions?Blasphemy!


Well, it IS the Hall of the Heretics after all... ;)

But you should be careful before calling "blasphemy" when someone have a different opinion than you. It's a game, not a religion :P

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Postby ThunderTitan » May 9 2006, 17:42

Marzhin wrote: It's a game, not a religion :P


Heretic... :tongue:
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Postby Marzhin » May 9 2006, 17:51

ThunderTitan wrote:Heretic... :tongue:


No wonder I always play Academy :P

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Postby theLuckyDragon » May 9 2006, 21:08

The Spell book looks fantastic! Much better than the H5 one, (mainly) because it's not tilted; it's also clearly organized and very aesthetic.
The Hero screen also looks very good. The various information is all in one window (no annoying tabs...), and I especially like all the little ornaments that fill some of the empty spaces.
The hex-grid doesn't impress me very much... I really don't see what's with all the fuss with hex vs. squares...
As for the Adventure Map screenshots... I am speechless. (@TT: now I have something to compare H5 with!) The graphics are miraculous and, again, the interface looks great.
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Postby DaemianLucifer » May 11 2006, 12:38

Marzhin wrote:It's a game, not a religion :P


Youre right,its not a religion,its a way of life :devil:


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